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Chris forman's avatar

Very well said. I have come to similar conclusions myself, from a scientific perspective.

Together we unite science Abd religion!

My science perspective starts from thinking about dissipation of high grade sun light as low grade earth scattered light. The shift in frequency from optical spectrum to infrared spectrum when starlight encounters a planet creates a change in entropy of the radiation. That change in entropy determines the extent of material reorganization that takes place on the planet.

Structure- such as hurricanes, oceans, waves and so on - emerges in the flux of energy. On earth matter in that stream of energy can re-organize itself.

We can think of structure as stored information. Over time different stocks of information emerge. DNA in biological systems. Geological layers in rocks. Curation of atmospheric composition, soil composition, the economy itself.

Scientists are learning that under non-equilibrium conditions matter can “learn”, ie stored information such as chemical structure can influence the information stored later. There is a memory of the past that affects the future.

So machine learning takes energy and resource as does human learning.

We then see politics emerging as competitions between patterns of stored information in human minds.

That stored information - whether it’s religious belief or ideological identity - affects how humans behave and choose to organize flows of energy that reorganize matter- the tools we build to do work.

We can choose to violently stamp out other peoples patterns or listen to them and allow our patterns to change in response.

Those are the only choices!

Different stocks of information emerge with flows of matter energy and information between them. Stocks such as social capital (the network of one to one relations) , learned skills in the work force, financial capital (a record of value created and who owns it), natural capital (dna library and organism distribution) , the built infrastructure (tools for rewriting matter patterns - manufacturing, agriculture).

For N stocks there are (N-1)/2 flows of resource so a matrix of flows between stocks exists - resistances exist which dissipate energy to heat and do thermodynamic work. If The total sum of entropy created exceeds the planetary flow of radiation entropy, then material entropy builds internally and poisoning occurs.

Some amazing structures can emerge but sustainability comes from regenerating those stocks - self-reinforcing patterns

For humans, whose mastery of nuclear power means we now can add to the solar influx of energy, increasing the entropy output of earth’s heat to space or use of stored energy in fossil fuels, the choices we make - which are based on information patterns in our brains - determine what structures emerge and how that energy flows between stocks. We are now at the level of energy dissipation where we macroscopically affect the oceanic and atmospheric compositions.

So the choices for how we allow our brain patterns to move around determine everything about the structures on earth.

We have only two choices for how we move those patterns around: one rooted in love. The other in hatred.

We can open our mind and listen to other patterns - give ourselves time and energy to learn about other ways of being - or we can seek to dominate and control other peoples patterns.

In our economy we each believe need money to acquire resource and have the patterns of matter we need. So we get jobs. This collective belief in social rules aligns our behavior. But the lack of sharing ownership of capital is act of violence.

We are forced into labor in a market where the output of our labor is owned by someone else and we all agree to this! It’s engrained in our collective brain patterns.

We can choose to open our minds to allow our brain patterns to evolve naturally until we find brain patterns that are stable to a diversity of flows of patterns. To do this we need to create space to learn about each other - build relationships with the people we hate.

Or we can seek to protect our patterns from changing through force. Literally deploy energy to dispel brain patterns that take over our preferred choices.

But the secret to peaceful transfer of patterns is to create the time and space to allow those patterns to exchange - this is deliberative democracy.

We have to recognise that learning about each other is a thermodynamic process. And we need to put resource into that.

If we don’t do that then we run the risk of locking ourselves into the violent combat of dominating brain patterns.

The system that will win will be the one that dissipates the most energy and produces the greatest entropy.

We can either choose to dissipate such energy through violence or through thinking and learning.

That’s the choice we have! :)

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Ricardo Berthold Sala's avatar

This was one of those very few posts I read all the way down to the very end. So comforting.

Are you familiar with David Jay, “Relationality”?

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